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Do Not Disturb
Come to the heart of the Trossach
mountains, breathe the fresh Perthshire air, and discover a troupe
of weary travellers footsore from their labours upon the stadium
circuit. For here Simple Minds are recharging their spirits, recording
an album and rehearsing for a world tour. The new perspective
is "more humble", they assure Mat Snow.
Mat Snow - 'Q' Magazine - June 1989
(UK)
Under the heptagonal valuted roof of
their spanking new private studio, Simple Minds are breaking in
their new boy. He is Malcolm Foster, formerly of The Pretenders
and now Simple Minds' third bassist, and he seems to be finding
the equally new Simple Minds song Kick It In a touch tricky. Far
more at ease as he beats the dust off his kit is Mel Gaynor, the
band's fourth drummer.
Of the original members, guitarist
Charlie Burchill drags a bottleneck along his strings for that
blueswailing train-whistle effect, and communicates over the din
using his version of bookmakers' tick-tack with Mick MacNeil,
who is steaming away in a similarly rootsy manner on that vernerable
rock instrument, the Hammond organ (both have been listening closely
to The Band of late, and Charlie admits to being "a closet
Dire Straits fan"). Cooling her heels, meanwhile, is violinist
Lisa Germano, as is percussionist Andy Duncan. Likewise underemployed
is singer Jim Kerr, who cuts a resplendent figure in his fiendishly
pointed cowboy boots and eye-socking gold jacket.
At length, however, Jim tires of waiting
for his cue and so joins us on the gallery that overlooks the
rehearsal proceedings. The shell of this lavishly appointed,
wood-panelled studio set the band back £100,000 - a bargain
considering that the house commands one of the loveliset views
in all of the British Isles - that of Loch Earn deep in the Trossachs,
a symphony of limpid water, russet slop and snowy peak.
As fo the studio's recording equipment,
jim doesn't care to put a price on it: suffice to say it's good
enough to tempt producer Trevor Horn up from his glittering SARM
studio complex in West London in order to finish off with his
collaborator Steve Lipson the ninth Simple Minds album, Street
Fighting Years. "Well, the studios are so expensive to hire,
so being Scotsmen we prefer to pay ourselves," Jim chuckles,
"Like, you've heard how they invented copper wire? Two Scotsmen
fighting over a halfpenny!".
"Up until the live album, we hadn't
had a break in our lives for more than two or three weeks. It
was very much living for the minute, and eight years went by so
fast. We did seven studio records, a live record, and I defy anyone
to do more dates. Though we didn't know it at the time, I think
we were pretty exhausted in every way - artistically and physically.
It was time to take a long break. When we came here it really
felt like home in a spiritual sense."
"Spiritual" is a very Jim
Kerr word: "Organic" is another. On the more physical
plane, Jim is settling back into an armchair in the very room
where the new Simple Minds album was written. What might Jim have
found for inspiration as his exhausted muse renewed itself? Gilt
occasional tables, easy chairs and plump, buttoned footstools
strike a note of elegant repose; carpet in an oatmeal shade fitted
throughout gives respite to the footsore and sufferer from eye-strain.
Art prints from Vienna hint at occupants of a certain discrimination;
an empty fireplace used as an ashtray, on the other hand, does
not. A single drumstick lying abandoned on the marble-topped coffee
table bears eloquent witness to the work done hereabouts; and
in pride of place above the mantelpiece, a framed football shirt
as worn by the captain of Inter Milan which was swapped for the
green-and-white hoops of his counterpart, Bobby Murdoch, after
Celtic's famous 1967 European Cup victory testifies to the pride
of Glasgow. But what of the higher things? The pengiun Celtic
Miscellany and Nora Chadwick's The History Of The Celts offer
a clue, but Jim laughingly admits he's got no further than page
60 of the latter.
Outside, in the fresh Perthshire air,
we may find further sources of rejuvenation. Well-tended flowerbeds
and an immaculately manicured lawn slope down to the drive where
parked higgledly-piggledly are the band's cars - an Arthur Daley
style Jag for Charlie Burchill, a Mitsubishi jeep for Jim. But
it is that breathtaking view across the loch and up the mountains
into the mist that surely has set Simple Minds' creative well-spring
once more bubbling forth. It is most definitely "organic",
and quite likely "spiritual" too.
Friends, family, home - all the things
he'd put aside for years - became important again. And not just
for Jim, but for Charlie and Mick too, the men who make the music
which inspires the words in the Simple scheme of things. For the
next chapter in the Simple Minds saga, Jim was determined to make
a break with the band's immediate past, and review the world from
the perspective of common humanity rather than just as territories
to be conquered.
"I was aware of the end of the
'80s coming up, and like it or hate it, we were one of the major
bands," Jim states with due modesty. "This record had
to show, apart from in a commercial sense, that artistically,
as opposed to peaking, we had used the last 10 years' experience
to make something new and alive. A new strength, a new pragmatic.
That coincides with us as people as well - though we don't sit
down and analyse how we've changed and stuff."
The fruits of his "new pragmatic"
are to be found in Street Fighting Years, an album which many
will regard as their finest since 1982's New Gold Dream. Jim describes
it as more "humble" than it's multi-million-selling
predecessors Sparkle In The Rain, Once Upon A Time and the double
live album Live In The City Of Light, and indeed it is.
"When we first heard the live
album I thought, What a great night! What dynamics! But is that
it for us - rousing choruses and crashing drums? There didnae
seem any room for subtlety, and we always seem at our best when
we're not trying to be powerful, but there's an underlying power
coming through. That had been evident in some of the records from
the past but had kind of gone. We enjoyed the highs of getting
into the big league, selling records and playing stadiums. It
was thrilling but it has the same sort of rhythm when it gets
to that magnitude. It bacame a sort of crusade and on some days
we loved the sort of sportingness of it but at the same time we
achieved our success with a record (Once Upon A Time) that I'm
not going to start slagging off but it was not an artistic high
- just a good modern rock/pop record which did not look into the
band's soul or any of that stuff. We were a lot less precious
when we made that album; we just had two months, so let's go.
That may sound completely mercenary but for us it was so exciting."
Like U2's The Unforgettable Fire and
Springsteen's Tunnel Of Love, Street Fighting Years follows an
almost military tour of the world's stadiums promoting appropriately
widescreen, declamatory albums (respectively War and Born In The
USA). In common with the former records, more focused, personal
and latently powerful, Street Fighting Years is an even greater
departure for Simple Minds: where once they were soarwaway symphonists,
Simple Minds now deal with burning issues - things that have come
to their attention first from the headlines, like South Africa,
and matters they've found on their own doorstep, like Northern
Ireland and the imposition of the poll tax on Scotland.
"I think the music is searching
and asking questions as opposed to trying to have answers lock,
stock and barrel," says Jim. "It's instinct not logic.
I'm attracted to that; I like actors who can never articulate
but give off this heat, like De Niro. You mention Springsteen;
it's true - you hear him speaking and he's bumbling away, but
he's got an instinct as opposed to an intellect."
For anyone who's grown up with Simple
Minds' dizzying futurism and celebration of sheer scale and surface
allure, the idea of an instinctive humanity bumbling away in their
breast might come as a surprise.
"When you're younger it's natural
to completely reject the past," Jim reasons. "You think
everything before your time is outmoded, corrupt, null and void.
You either feel alienated and react to life voyeuristically, or
else you try and transcend it in variuos ways - drugs, drink,
join a rock 'n' roll band. The rock 'n' roll band is a great way
of escaping, especially when the movies you're seeing, the books
you're reading and the whole existentalist thing is swilling around.
When I try and a get on those days, it's like a suspended animation."
"But now we've come through the
voyeuristic phase, when I hear a song like I Travel (a Simple
Minds classic from 1980), what pisses me off or embrarrasses me
is it's our On The Road, our version of kerouac in Europe: there
were bombs going off on Bolonga train station and in synagogues,
and Baader-Meinhof. This was the year before Brixton and Toxteth
and you could feel the weirdness. When I listen to the song, I
sing it in the most affectedly way, whereas now, eight years on,
if something happens, it appals me: how do I reject this, how
do I show my protest, how do I take a kick at this? In the past
there was all this artfulness - as distinct from art - that is
awful."
"Age has got a lot to do with
it," laughs Mick MacNeil, the rake-thin keyboardist from
the Isle of Barra, and the original Simple Minds token Protestant.
"You'd just come through your
adolescence, and you're going out of Glasgow fro the first time,
and so you write about all these things you're taking in,"
agrees the affable Charlie Burchill. "Now you're older and
a bit more mature, you reflect more, especially on your own doorstep.
Since being back we've been here; we watch the news and read the
paper. Like, we were in Brazil (headlining a four-day festival
in January 1988), and when we came back we saw in the news about
the landslide where we'd just been, and it makes you think. And
you go to Ireland and meet ordinary people who give you impressions
which before you'd never have bothered with. Even in America,
you go to Washington expecting to find the White House and instead
you see incredible black poverty. These things are constantly
making an impression, building up your consciousness and concern."
"It's really difficult not to
feel like that," chimes Mick.
"At this point we do realise that
being in a band we have this opportunity to say something, to
make some sort of statement, even if it's just 'Here's this piece
of music'," continues Charlie. "In the end, if you can
articulate what you fell.....Like, when we were in London we had
a couple of black guys come up and say, 'Brilliant, what you're
doing.' We hardly get recognised by anyone, especially in London,
but getting involved in Mandela Day obviously meant a lot to them,
and that was great."
When approached by Jerry Dammers to
take part in a show celebrating Nelson Mandela, Simple Minds were
the first act to give a definite commitment, swiftly followed
by Dire Straits, Eurythmics, Whitney Houston and the rest.
"At the conceert the pop stars
said things to a varying degree," Jim reflects. "Some
people wouldn't say anything at all: some people would say garbled
messages: some people would dedicate a song to the ANC or SWAPO;
some people saw it as a birthday party, which I thought was particularly
weak considering his birthday was not for another five weeks;
some people saw it as a charity concert which depressed me - pop
stars giving a tenner while the rest of the world is looking on.
"I've got to be careful what I
say here. The effort that old ladies put into Church jamborees
is a whole industry on it's own and it's a great thing, but I'm
not interested in giving a tenner to this or 10 grand to that.
But I find the idea of writing a song fantastic and challenging.
It's like Victor Jara said: you can cage a singer but you can't
cage the song. Songs live on: people learn them and pass them
on."
An unforeseen consequence of Simple
Minds' particular outspoken stand on Mandela Day was the empurpled
reaction of Sir Nicholas Fairbairn, the conservative MP for Perth
and Kinross (coincidentally the constituency in which falls Simple
Minds' Loch Earn retreat). "They're just scum....left wing
scum," raved the castle dwelling laird, notorious for his
Oriental-style wardrobe, on the front page of the Scottish Daily
Record the week after the show. "These so-called stars like
Annie Lennox and Jim Kerr are just our to line their own pockets....
and what Annie Lennox and Jim Kerr said at Wembley came out of
no love for Nelson Mandela. It came from a desire to make money."
Leaving aside the paradox of being both left-wing scum and purely
mercenary, the exotic Tory knight's outburst provoked outrage
in the Minds camp: a few of the band's Glaswegian friends proposed
paying Sir Nicholas a visit and setting him straight on a couple
of points. Jim had to dissuade them gently, and the matter has
only recently been resolved afetr legal mediation.
"When we came back from London
after doing the concert, putting in all that work and getting
nothing from it, to come back home to Glasgow and read the front
page of the newspaper calling us scum really angered me,"
recalls Mick. "A creep in a sari who lives in a castle calling
us scumbags! I just wanted to hit the guy!"
"It's amazing to think that rock
bands used to throw TVs out of the window and be into drugs, and
now look at who the arseholes are," fulminates Charlie in
his mild-mannered way. "This guy dresses up like an Indian
maharajah and is probably out of it every day on the booze. It's
a bad day when bands have to get up and sing about poll tax; what
happened to the Labour Party? I'm sure it must confuse a lot of
people nowadays. That's the most heartening thing: here's this
geezer on the front page of the paper looking a complete prat,
saying we're left-wing scum, but most people will think, what
an utter idiot!"
A smaller but no less telling controversy
in which Simple Minds were involved last summer was their well-publicised
refusal (along with Deacon Blue and Hue & Cry) to accept sponsorship
from Tennent Caledonian Breweries.
"Drink's the biggest problem in
Scotland," Charlie - no teetotaller himself - reckons. "Marriages
spilt up, kids are beaten up through drink; it's not doing anyone
any good."
"There's nothing worse than a
gig with a dodgy atmosphere, when there's alcohol about, especially
as now a lot of the younger bands are getting offers from Tennents
Breweries," agrees Mick.
Indeed, with the exception of musical
equipment endorsement, Simple Minds have instructed their management
to turn down all offers out of hand without even referring to
the group. "It cracks me up that everyone's aware nowadays
that there's a war between Coke and Pepsi, like with football
everybody knows the names of the directors nowadays when it used
to be only the names of the players," muses Charlie ruefully.
By one of those ironies sent to try us, guest vocalist on the
song This Is Your Land is Simple Minds' long-standing hero Lou
Reed, who has in recent years put his rock 'n' roll credibility
at the disposal of Honda motorcycles and American Express.
"He's always tried to find the
truth; he's always tried to make sense," says Jim. "You
always think of his nihilism and decadence, but I was amazed when
I met him how absolutely lucid he was. I was expecting someone
shell-shocked."
Eyebrows might be raised when he sings
the line you wrote, "Money can't buy me".
"I didn't ask about it,"
sighs Jim, "but when he asked what I wanted him to do a parody
of Lou reed. And he said, Everybody else is doing it, so why shouldn't
I?
"The '80s are very yuppified,
and I'm not talking in terms of Filofaxes, carphones - or Mitsubishi
jeeps for that matter," Jim warms to his theme. "It's
very much a matter of isolation and dog-eat-dog; there's not a
lot of community stuff going on. The cynic sees something as it
is, not how it could be. Of course mandela Day was a great idea,
of course Amnesty International is a great idea; but it's not
enough just to say right on. What are you actually going to do
about it? With us and U2, at the heart of the music is a spirit
of life. And a lot of the words were induced by the music. With
Belfast Child, I first heard the melody a few days after Enniskillen
and like everybody when you see the images I was just sick. What
else can you say?"
Jim related those feelings to his personal
grief for a Glasgow friend murdered in a fight a few months before.
"In the second part of Belfast
Child I'm trying to relate to people in Northern Ireland who've
also lost. I'm trying to talk about the madness and sadness and
emptiness. I'm not saying I have any pearls of wisdom, but I have
a few questions to ask. When I'm asked on American TV who my heroes
are, rather than saying Lou Reed or Bob Dylan or someone who goes
without saying, I say there are these people called Amnesty International
and what they are doing I think is rather heroic. It only takes
about 30 seconds.
"Because i'm a parent myself,
I feel responsible. In years to come I can imagine my daughter
saying, What was going on? What did you do in particular? If you
really felt that way, did you ever write a song about it?"
What did you do in the global consciousness
war, Daddy?
"Yeah, that's true."
"Doing interviews is a thing that
came to me because Charlie and Mick had other stuff to do and
I ended up being the best at it of all of us. You get used to
being at the forefront, but naturally I was not like that before,"
says Jim with barely a ghost of the stammer with which he was
painfully stricken when first he came to public attention. "it's
been weird for me to come from being not quite a loner or recluse
or outsider or anything weird, but pretty much. I'm still a bit
like that. When they're getting steaming with the local bobby
or whatever, I'll be trying to drive North to the very tip.
"I just love the idea of movement
and spaces and what places might be like," he returns to
the central theme of his songs. "It's frustrating that I
don't have the time to get below the surface, but I've got a lot
more confident; if I'm travelling and I go into a bar, I'll go
up to someone and hassle them to tell me what it's like to live
there or what the local issue is. Before i would never have spoken
to someone unless they spoke first. My desire hasnae diminished.
On tour if it's a day off, I'll do the long drive, the 26 or 28
hours. You don't have the chance to stop and see places, but at
least you have the feeling of what it might be like. It could
be the light or it could be the road - whatever the dynamics are
of that particular place.
"When we were in Brazil, I detested
the Copacabana. It wasnae for me: the beach was fucking polluted,
full of tourists and junkshops. I couldnae wait to get outside.
To get to the life was so heavy you had to go in a pack and have
local guys with guns with you as well."
John Lydon reports very much the same
thing.
"He was on the radio the other
day talking about that, going on about these 'pop stars' who go
to places like that and have their pictures taken; my brother
bsaid, this twat's talking about us! But it's not like that; you
go and try and touch the atmosphere. It seems such a wasted opportunity
just to sit in the Hilton - I'm not complaining about that side.
I just guess you want it all."
Sting perhaps, offers an example Jim
might follow - the global village rock star!
"I can see his motive exactly.
The guy's got everything he wants and it's not enough, so he puts
it aside and tries to look for something more, something to contribute.
The fact that he's a successful singer and songwriter is something
he's going to use."
There are easier ways to publicise
yourself than sailing up the Amazon.
"Sure, Sting really needs the
publicity the same as Springsteen really needs it. He thinks of
something outside these four walls as opposed to the'70s attitude
where you collect 20 rollers and drive them into swimming pools.
You could say you can't win, but of course you do win because
you do what the hell you lie. Sting is obviously on some kind
of spiritual journey as well, and he's trying to do it practically.
Who knows? He doesn't need the money or publicity."
Perhaps it's a voracious ego that drives
Sting. In his film Bring On The Night, he made sure the cameras
were in the delivery room to show us his girlfriend giving birth.
Would Jim do that?
"I thought that was particularly
weird as well."
So you would think twice before, say,
writing a song about marriage?
"We never even had any pictures
taken. We had one guy taking pictures personally for us and he
sold them to the press!" Jim shrugs with exasperation: "That's
how I feel about my thing. Art and life are entwined but at the
same time there's areas you just would not want..." Jim trails
off, plainly reluctant to dissect his relationship which had started
with a whirlwind romance when Simple Minds and The Pretenders
ran into each other in Australia and which was knotted in a private
ceremony in New York in May 1984; a year later their daughter
Yasmin was born. For the record, Jim's unswerving line is that
conflicting workloads and preferences for home - Jim just outside
Edinburgh, Chrissie Hydne in London - did for their marriage,
though not without a struggle to keep it together, Today they
are amicably separted.
"You have to be on your guard.
If you deal with an endless thing like this (our interview) for
three or four months, if you really listen to people, it would
drive you off your head. This guy from one of the music papers
said to me, tell me, what is the hardest thing about being Jim
Kerr? Give it a fucking rest! D'you think I think about myself
that much? Don't get me thinking I'm worth thinking about that
much! Who would want to go into analysis like that? But you've
got a duty to talk to the press and radio, you've got a duty to
analyse. That's why people end up with crazy egos - though I'm
not blaming you for Sting being like that."
Analysis of what makes SImple Minds
tick is clearly something Jim strnuously resists.
"Organically, I've been writing
words since I was five, and I don't know why - it's just there.
Why does MacNeil play chords that are a certain size and grandeur?
He's not a pompous chap. Perhaps you could say that he's from
Barra where there's nothing but sky and sea, so bigness is nothing
to him; he feels at home in it."
Sting and Peter Gabriel I think are
entirely admirable," Jim resumes his main theme. "They
might look out of their depth or pissing in the wind as even I
said about myself during the Amnesty thing; some nights you think,
what's the point? Everywhere in the world there's people being
locked up and done in. But if the effect of some concerts is that
two people are set free, try telling them it isn't worthwhile;
try telling them if we had thought about it then backed out. In
the band, whatever we've learned, we certainly didn't get it at
school; it's come through experiences in the band and people we've
met. Music has helped us battle ignorance. And if music helps
people feel less lonely, that's a start."
"Charlie and I had an experience
when we last played Milan," Jim reminisces. "We were
driving to the stadium, San Siro, and when we last went on a hitchhiking
trip (between leaving school and forming their first regular band,
Johnny And The Self Abusers, Jim and Charlie thumbed it around
Western Europe)... and I mentioned that trip a lot because it
is a good symbol of this band and our career; we put out our thumbs
and we went, we never asked where we were going and never tried
to get to a particular place; and through that trip we broke a
lot of ties with Glasgow and got emancipation - it became a bit
of a spiritual flight. But anyway, we were driving to this concert,
eight or nine years on, and as is typical of Italy the place was
chaos and the driver got lost and we ended up going through where
the crowds were teeming in; we were late and it was pandemonium.
We were sitting in the back of this big car and recognised the
area and couldn't work it out where. Before, we'd spent only two
nights in Milan, sleeping in the train station and the square
in front of it. And as the car turned round, that's where we were
- the place where we'd sat and said we should get a band together
and quit just talking about it; you've got a guitar and I've got
words - we should just do it and see where it takes us!
"Anything is possible when you're
17 - if it's going to rain tonight, we'll just vibe it to stop!
And if sitting on the San Siro steps we'd have said that this
would be our destiny, they would have certified us on the spot!"
And should Jim ever get carried away
- heaven forbid - by the great cities, great crowds and great
adulation, he has only to ponder a chance meeting just the other
day at Heathrow Airport on his way to a video shoot in Spain.
For likewise in transit were Marti Pellow, permanant-grinning
singer with Glasgow's Wet Wet Wet, and the great Kenny Dalglish
of Liverpool FC.
"Pop stars I can handle, but with
footballers I get starstruck." Jim leans forward to describe
this intimate moment. "I'd met Dalglish a few times and he's
a steely character. He's definitely my Roy Of The Rovers; I saw
him play for Celtic's reserves and he was the kind of person who
in the dying seconds would kick the ball and it would hit a seagull
and go in! I told him that, and I also told him that if this record
went through the roof, I'd buy him back!
"Marti Pellow was with him - a
Rangers supporter; he looks liked a Rangers supporter - and they
came over, and all these people young and old came up, including
these teenage girls who made straight for Dalglish and asked him
for his autograph. Of course, Dalglish loved it - 'I beat you
guys at this as well!'"
Street Fighting Years
David Sinclair - 'Q' Magazine - June
1989 (UK)
Michael Jackson, Bon Jovi and even
Genesis may sell more records and tickets than Simple Minds, but
with Street Fighting Years the band has arrived at that coveted
place in the superleague constellation that is reserved for the
act which can burn with the brightest sense of mission.
Jim Kerr has become a master at talking
up the business of making music, never wasting an opportunity
to describe his trade in terms of spiritual and mystical reference
points to which the tag of greatness can be readily attached.
Now, over three years after their last studio album, Once Upon
A Time, the bond has finally produced a collection to justify
that attitude.
The first thing that strikes you about
Street Fighting Years is how quiet much of it is. The album starts
with the sound of a solo upright bass leading into the rolling
piano chords of the title track. In various songs, especially
the slow, reflective refrain of Let It All Come Down, Jim Kerr
pitches his vocal in a new, silky low register. The full-length
version of Belfast Child and Peter Gabriel's Biko only gather
momentum after wistful, meandering intros, while even among the
teeming shoals of sound that propel the uptempo Wall Of Love or
Kick It In, there are placid eddies where Jim Kerr's singing slips
from a yell to a whisper. But there's no mistaking the iron fist
at work within the velvet glove. The utterly beguiling melody
of This Is Your Land, featuring a deadpan Lou Reed, cloaks a stinging
rebuke on the issue of the environment while gently leading the
listener up towards the panoramic splendour of the instrumental
coda. Everything is right about the album.
Charlie Burchill has discovered the
joys of slide guitar, and his judicious contributions season the
production with a modish dash of roots-rock flavouring. Lyrically,
the switch from the vague impressionism of the past to a questioning
manifesto embracing the popular international issues of the times
- Mandela Day, Biko et al-seems both natural and timely. Even
when the music takes off into the vast dramatic sweeps that will
roll like huge breakers to the back of the stadiums of Europe
this summer, there is little that could fairly be described as
bluster. Simple Minds have done more than make a landmark album.
They have assumed the mantle of authority.
(5 out of 5)
Street Fighting Years
CMJ New Music (US)
Simple Minds' association with the
human rights organization Amnesty International is apparent on
Street Fighting Years, the band's first studio album in close
to four years.
While this album perhaps thankfully
lacks the inspirational anthems of the Sparkle In The Rain era
(which were fine at the time), the streamlined band-they're down
to a basic trio, with help from Stewart Copeland, Sting drummer
Manu Katche and Mellencamp fiddler Lisa Germano-focuses attention
on the passion of the lyrics, which have a political awareness
and social consciousness that keeps those spots where the music
falls short up on a high level.
On songs like "Mandela Day" (the theme
song for last June's Wembley Stadium event), and the cover of
Peter Gabriel's "Biko," Simple Minds shows their concern for South
African affairs. They bring it closer to home on the heartening
epic "Belfast Child" (with their lyrics sung to the tune of the
traditional Scottish song "She Moved Through The Fair," it is
by far the stand-out gem of this LP) and the first U.S. single,
"This Is Your Land," with added vocals from Lou Reed. Also check
out "Soul Crying Out" and the title track 'Street Fighting Years'.
Street Fighting Years
Mike Soutar - 'Smash Hits' (UK)
'Street Fighting Years' is Simple Minds'
first 'real' LP for over three years. Since then they've released
a sort of greatest hits double album of live 'workouts' called
'In The City Of Light', toured the world a number of times, and
slimmed down to three members.
This, their tenth LP in ten years,
is packed with the kind of crowd-rousing flag hoisting anthems
that everyone expects from the Minds, except this time they've
entirely forgotten to include the chorus in any of the songs.
All the tracks are about ten minutes long, too, which means that
although they'll probably sound epic played live, they'll probably
drive you quite mad in the comfort of your own bedroom.
(6 out of 10)
Street Fighting Years
Scottish Sunday Mail (UK)
Simple Minds' new album Street Fighting
Years is due to be released on May 2 and this week I had a sneak
preview.
The faithful will not be disappointed....
and the doubters will be converted. It's their best work yet.
The standard of Belfast Child and This Is Your Land is maintained
throughout. And there's one stunning song called Soul Crying Out,
a resounding cry against the poll tax, of which Jim Kerr is an
eloquent opponent.
I caught up with him before the band
set off on their 14-month world tour. "We set out to write songs
about these times and, to do that, it's hard to ignore the politics"
he said. Jim is as understandably excited about the album as everyone
else who's heard it.
"We want to show that the last 10 years
has been an apprenticeship, and now it's going to get really,
really interesting" he added. Jim says the songs are better, the
singing is better, and that the band is at it's best. "It's music
that has a spirit of life behind it, if that doesn't sound too
psuedy." I'll forgive you that one, Jim. The album is a winner.
This Is Your Land
'Smash Hits' (UK)
At first this sounds alarmingly like
the sort of music you hear in an adverisement for an Abbey National
pension plan.It starts off with some highly atmospheric rumblings
and swooshes, and continues with Jim Kerr doing a passable impression
of the recently deceased Roy Orbison.
These days he thinks he's some sort
of a social commentator and so feels perfectly justified in telling
everyone about "churches and steeples" and "big city people" -
which is all well and good if you like that sort of thing (and
granted quite a lot of people seem to find Jim a bit of a hero
figure) but it is just a trifle pompous all the same.
"This Is Your Land" probably makes
a very valid point if you listen to the whole thing, but there's
slim chance of finding out what it is because by then, one has
probably retired to one's kip.
Street Fighting Years
Chris Brazier - www.newint.org (US)
This is the album which is certain
to propel Simple Minds - already fantastically popular - into
the mega-league inhabited by the likes of U2 and Springsteen.
And, like those two acts, this one wears its political heart on
its sleeve: there are songs here about Steve Biko, Nelson Mandela,
Belfast and the environment.
The world is no longer a simpleminded
question of chasing rock success: like Sting, singer Jim Kerr
has discovered his conscience and quite rightly wants to use his
stature and popularity to spread the word about injustice. So
far so good. And so too is the readiness to look beyond the stadium-rock
bombast into which they were fast slipping and investigate the
more contemplative pastures little seen since their best record,
1982Ős New Gold Dream. But for all that Street Fighting Years
is a touch disappointing. Trevor HornŐs production has its usual
epic scale and denisty but the songwriting is often too pallid
to match it: KerrŐs Mandela Day, for instance, suffers badly by
comparison with Peter GabrielŐs Biko, even in the rather anaemic
clothes that song appears in here.
There is feeling and there is form
- but overall Simple Minds havenŐt quite come up with enough substance
to stop them being marked down as an inferior U2.
Street Fighting Man
On the eve of a controversial
new single and the first album for more than three years. Jim
Kerr talks candidly to TERRY STAUNTON about marriage, Mandela
the immorality of the Poll Tax and the remodelling of Simple Minds.
Terry Staunton - 'NME' - 4th Febraury
1989 (UK)
Jim Kerr looks out the window of his
flat in South Queensferry, just a few miles from Edinburgh, at
the tranquil waters under the Forth Bridge. Water-skiers splash
and tumble, dogs are walked on the beach, and sightseers eat ice
cream - in January! It's an idyllic spot, but occasionally the
beauty of this part of Scotland can be spoiled.
"Sometimes I'm looking out at
this great view, feeling really good about the world and then
everything's ruined. Sometimes I see American nuclear submarines
making their way up the coast to the Polaris base at Rosyth. It's
a horrendous sight, it's something that deeply offends me."
Jim Kerr is angry and occasionally
furrows his brow in despair, as if the worries of the world are
his copyright. 10 years ago Jim and his grubby Glasgow pop group
wouldn't have given the sub a second glance, they might not have
given a fig about their fellow man, but not naymore. By his own
admission, Jim Kerr has grown up.
The growing pains of Jim Kerr, aged
29 3/4
Simple Minds as individuals have aligned
themselves to Amnesty International for years, as a group they
have lent their name to the organisation's protests. But
their music has hardly ever addressed political situations, preferring
to deal with what Jim calls "the fantastc".
Historically, the venom-charged aggression
of young bands mellows into middle-class, mid-Atlantic oblivion.
They lose their sharp teeth and ultimately
become oblivious to their surroundings. For Simple Minds, the
process is in reverse. Their new EP weighs in at just under 20
minutes: three songs of protest that may face problems when national
radio programmes try to slot them into a show full of placebo
pop.
Two of the songs, 'Mandela Day' and
'Biko', will already be familiar to viewers of laast year's Wembley
concert and fans of Peter Gabriel, but the lead track is a different
kettle of fish. 'Belfast Child' is a taster fro Simple Minds'
first album in over three years, which will be with us in the
spring. It's called 'Street Fighting Years' and features the group
at their most provocative.
"For me." explains Jim, "it's
like Simple Minds coming from what was once described as a voyeuristic
sound, to a sound that is much more physical, militant, and hopefully
a lot more articulate.
"For a start, we're 10 years older.
When you're 21 or 22, you're definitely writing by proxy, it's
through the books you've read and stuff, the films, whatever.
And although there is still a degree of that going on, we're less
kind of self-interested, more interested in the big picture of
the scheme of things.
"When yuou first get into a band
as a teenager it's escapism. You tell yourself reality is fucked
and society is fucked and you do your best to transcend all that.
You do escape it for a bit and it's very self-indulgent, it's
fantasy. But you cannot escape reality, you can't escape society,
society is too clever. The whole punk thing of revolution, when
you look at it a few years later, it was more like a satire. I
don't think anybody in the House of Lords batted an eyelid."
Jim felt a need to get away from 'Sanctify
Yourself' or 'Speed Your Love To Me', he knew that this was a
time for change, that change coming in the form of a six-and-a-half
minute single which is very unlike Simple Minds. It's based on
a traditional Irish song, 'She Move Through The Fair', complete
with whistles, accordions and fiddles.
"The music came about when we
first met Trevor Horn (who, along with Stephen Lipson, has produced
the new LP) long before we started working with him, and he asked
us if we had ever thought about recording a folk song. We had
given it some thought for years, in the same way as some of our,
erm, contemporaries had, I mean, it sounds corny to say we were
going back to our roots, but that was about it, we were checking
out things from our personal past.
"To be honest, I'd never heard
'She Moved Through The Fair', but it turns out to be like the
'Be Bop A Lula' of the folk world. 'Anyway, a couple of weeks
later I came up on the plane from London and I was reading all
the stuff in the papers about the Enniskillen bombing. I mean,
it had been going on for years, but I was particularly gutted
by this one, with all the poppy imagery and stuff. It just seemed
to be heading for a bleaker beyond.
"We were brought up in Glasgow
amidst all that sectarian thing, because Glasgow and Belfast are
very much alike in terms of mentality, even the industry is similar.
There were always closer links for us with Ireland than with the
rest of Scotland and I began to think about Belfast and how for
20 years since I was a kid it's just been there. it's like this
eternal Rubik cube that nobody seems to be able to do anything
about.
"I wasn't thinking about the victims
of that bombing particularly, it was more the babes that were
born that night in the City, this week, and the kids that are
our age who've lived there all their lives and have grown up with
it, never knowing any different. I hope they have more than just
another 20 years of this on their doorstep.
"I'm trying to identify with the
continual pressure of the person in the middle, who perhaps doesn't
think there should be Bristish home rule, but at the same time
can see no vision in Sinn Fein.
"The pressure of being a teenager
over there is incredible. It's a macho tribal thing where you
could be forced into action just for a sense of belonging, to
be part of the gang and hang out."
Isn't there a danger of the whole thing
looking and sounding contrived, like Simple Minds are toying with
terrorist subject matter to try and make a commerical impact,
rather than a social one?
"Yeah, we have to be very careful
about that. We're going over to Belfast to do the video because
it would be a cop-out not to. At first we were against it because
the last thing we want to do is to exploit it or have pictures
of us looking like The Clash, standing at the barricades and the
fuckin' off back home.
"Somebody commented on the EP
the other day suggesting that, because we had 'Mandela Day' and
'Biko' on it, we were saying there was a kind of apartheid going
on in Northern Ireland as well. I believe there is, there's also
an economic apartheid about the country, but it's less focussed
than in South Africa, it's a much more confusing situation, which
counts for a lot of the pressure, particularly on the youths."
Nelson who?
The last time Simple Minds appeared
in public was at the Mandela Birthday show at Wembley last June,
when both Jim and Annie Lennox came in for a bit of stick fromScottish
MP Nicholas Fairbaim, who accussed both stars of disgracing their
country and only doing the shows to line their own pockets.
Jim's management are still talking
behing closed doors with Fairbairn's solicitors, but the lad himself
seems non-plussed about the whole thing.
"I was quite amused by it, but
I was also aware that people around me were on the brink of violence
towards that guy. The sting was taken out of it when I heard about
his reputation as a head-line-grabber. I kind of thought that
if the concert had gone by without any reaction of that sort it
would of been a bit of a failure."
Weren't you hurt by Fairbairn's remarks?
"Left-wing scum? I was quite chuffed
in a way, and I just put it all down to the mentality of the guy.
You could get into a whole thing with lawyers and all that, but
I would rather channel my energies into something more positive,
there are bigger battles to be fought.
"There could be a matter of pride
and principle involved and I would love to take some money off
of him and give it to the ANC, that would be a fantastic coup
if he has to pay up. But at the end of the day, Fairbairn is nothing
more than a midge bite, when your own voice questions you and
you can answer it with a clear conscience you know you're winning."
But are the consciences of everyone
who took part in the concert clear? Jim feels the gig could have
achieved more and feels that some artists approached it cynically.
"I'm pissed off about it right
now sittin' and thinkin' back on the whole thing. Who else has
written songs about it, who else id doin' stuff, who else is gonna
carry it through? I was pissed off when I found out it was goin'
on TV because, as musch as I enjoyed it being done by the BBC
and being a thorn in the side of all them governors down there,
I knew that in a global sense there would be sponsors, advertising,
whatever. There just seemed to be a lot of compromising goin'
on.
"In America it was disgustin',
they even changed the name, they called it Freedom Fest, and it
was turning into one big jolly birthday party, which didn't really
focus on the issue at hand. People were forgettin' that Mandela
was just the figurehead, it was supposed to be a protest against
the whole regime.
"When Jerry Dammers got in touch
with us, the idea was not just to play, but to have a varied set
and special guests. Everybody was supposed to write a song specifically
for the day, which I thought was a great idea, but we were the
only ones that did! beyond that, not many people did relevant
songs that would have focussed the protest."
What about George Michael's set of
significant soul covers?
"Well, he blew it from the fuckin'
start! Actually, I loved taht Stevie Wonder song he did, 'Down
In Ghettoland', I thought that was great, but he didn't sweat,
he didn't get angry. Maybe it isn't his style, but his speech
went into all this, 'Hey, you guys' showbiz rubbish. I mean, why
didn't he just say 'this one's for the ANC or somethin'? None
of them did any press up front to let people know exactly where
they were at, nobody would do interviews with The Independant
or The Guardian.
"I'm not lookin' to slag it off,
but you have to think of the things that came through. You see,
it wasn't a charity concert, alright, it made a few quid, but
first and foremost it was a protest conceert, it was a political
concert. It definitley did get whittled down, but having said
that, I know South Africans were absolutely pissed off.
"But, we only needed Prince there,
if he had turned up - and he was asked - it would have made it.
He wanted nothin' to do with it, and we needed something of that
magnitude. If Bono had come on satge, the whole mid-west America
would have known who Nelson Mandela was. I don't know if they
do.
"There was a need to contribute,
everything else is a doddle. It was a doddle to go on stage, but
there is all this energy that needed to be used. Maybe I'm naive,
I tend to think anybody would have done something, it would be
a normal response. I know hundreds of people who would have loved
to have stood on that stage and basically to have said'Fuck Off'
to that whole regime."
This is the world calling
Kerr's affiliation to Amnesty International
used to be a very private affair, he inherited his interest in
it from his father, but it took what he calls one of Simple Minds'
worst songs to bring it out in the open.
To this day, Jim is less than enamoured
by 'Don't You (Forget About Me)', a song written by Billy Idol
producer Keith Forsey for the movie The Breakfast Club. But it's
success made him think more about the power he had as a pop star.
"It went to Number One in America,
our first hit over there and it was probably the most hollow thing
we ever did. We didn't really like it, but we thought it would
be a way to get America to recognise us, get them to listen. I
know a lot of people got tons of enjoyment from it, I'm not knocking
that, but for us it was effortless.
"Anyway, what it gave us was a
kind of instant high profile, tons of media coverage. We were
prime time news in America! So I was going into these interviews,
and it wasn't so much the questions they were asking me, it was
the questions I started to ask myself. I thought to myself, 'right,
you've got a microphone in front of you here, you've got a chance
to say something, but have you got anything to say? If you've
nothing directly to say, then you start to ask questions, it's
the next best thins.
"What I'm writing just now is
an honest response to what I see going around, and probably there
is a feeling of guilt there. You see events from 30, 40 or 50
years ago and you think 'Why did people let that go on, why didn't
they do something about it? I can imagine in years to come my
kids asking me about South Africa or Central America and screaming
at me 'you had your chance to rock the boat, you could have done
something in your own way'.
"I began thinking more and more
about it, and now I think that me writing a song is equivalent
to me throwing a stone. I think stone-throwing is good, as much
as Amnesty is all about peace and non-violence. I'm running out
of patience. For me, the song should be a weapon.
"I remember when we did Amnesty
shows we left leaflets on chairs to tell people what was goin'
on, real idiot board tatics, and we would come out of the gig
feeling great, as if the roof was gonna come down. Then we would
see the pamphlets had been made into paper areoplanes and were
strewn all over the place. Your own voice starts asking you 'are
you mad, are you just wastin' your time?' But then you find out
that people have been given their freedom partly because of our
actions. Amnesty went on the record about that. It just gives
you the encouragement to do more, it shows what can happen when
you apply yourself.
Are you not wary of being accused of
becoming a rent-a-cause kind of group? If you wave too many banners
people will doubt your sincerity?
"it's a difficult thing, but I
feel that anything we do in a political sense is all based around
the idea of freedom, it all comes down to the notion of a free
life. The idea of drawing attention to something means you have
to pick up the banner because the rest of the media isn't picking
up on it.
"We came in for some stick because
we didn't really get involved in the miners strike, but I felt
the miners in South Africa were having a much rougher deal. You
see, we felt there were already things being done for the miners
here and their case was being put across. Charity doesn't necessarily
begin at home, I mean we've done our bit for Scottish issues in
the past, we've just given away our last pennies to the Toryglen
housing scheme, which is like a spillover for the Gorbals housing
estate where we grew up. They asked for a pittance to help build
a community centre, and I think you should contribute on your
own doorstep."
That's entertainment
Chairman Jim's thoughts, previously
confined to the stage as soapbox, have noe found their way into
the studio. The aforementioned single 'Belfast Child' points the
way to a new Simple Minds where "the fantastic" is dispensed
with and, to use Jim's words, the "articulate" takes
it's place.
"First and foremost, what we're
doing is entertainment, but entertainment doesn't have to be hollow
or vacuous. The best entertainment I can think of has always illuminated
and articulated, right through Bertolt Brecht, Jacques Brel, or
the Spanish poets during the revolution. These people could articulate
something in a nutshell and still make it entertaining.
"That's why it's great to write
a song which takes an idea and hits the nail on the head in three
minutes, even if it doesn't explain things in detail, but nods
to what's goin' on. That Prince song 'Sign O' The Times' is a
great example, he summed up the month that it was released, and
there was still room for romance at the end, I mean it was fuckin'
brilliant.
"The same with Little Steven's
'Sun City', you get such a charge from it, it's so different from
the cosiness of 'We Are The World' or something. It was so urban,
anyone who says rock 'n' roll is dead obviously hasn't heard that
song. Everyone wants to write something timeless, but you run
the risk of ending up with 'Nights In White Satin'."
And so to 'Street Fighting Years'.
Jim squirms when he tells me it's vaguely conceptual, it reflects
what he calls the "age of chaos" that we're living in.
"If there is a theme, and I think
people will recognise one, it's that every song has to do with
some kind of conflict, both in the worldly sense of Belfast, South
Africa, Chile, whatever, but there's also the songs about a kind
of inner conflict - the age of chaos.
"One song, 'Soul Crying Out',
came about through being in Scotland for the past couple of years
and seeing the emergence of the Poll Tax, and the thing that offends
me is the immorality of it. I was trying to imagine, which isn't
really too hard, how it's gonna put a lot of people's backs against
the wall up here and eventually down in England, and the desperation
that's gonna come through that.
"There's one called 'This Is Your
Land', which might sound terribly contrived, but it's probably
because we've been up here recording it amongst the very elements,
the mountains, the sea the sky. You see all this and then you
see the nuclear submarines passing your window. It's obscene,
and people should take charge of their land and not let it happen.
"Again with 'Wall Of Love', that
came from being on a TV show in France and being asked my opinion
on the Berlin Wall at the time of it's 50th anniversary. I was
pissed off with the mood in the studio, there was a right wing
MP spouting off as well, so I just said I liked it. I liked the
wall. There are other walls around us, walls of bureaucracy, walls
of racism, but at least you can see the Berlin Wall. That doesn't
freak me, it's the unseen walls that are the problem. One day
we'll see the Berlin Wall come down, I believe that, but I don't
know about these unseen walls.
"Everything seems to be about
this same age of chaos that I believe we're going through. If
you're gonna write, there comes a time when you have to bear witness.
This previously unheard political thought
means the new Simple Minds could find themselves a whole new audience
when they set off on a world tour later this year. But how will
the diehards deal with the changes, will Jim be alienating his
old audience?
"When we released the live album
last year, we were absolutely adamant that it was the end of a
thing, a phase, whatever. As much as we always want to play the
'Waterfronts' or whatever, we had to reinvent ourselves and that's
why this album has taken so long.
"We've chucked out loads of stuff,
stuff that we would have gone with in the past. If you write a
certain type of song, you can easily write the same thing again
with your eyes shut, you can write another 'Waterfront' or 'Alive
And Kicking', it's not testing you.
"On the last album ('Once Upon
A Time') we went easy on ourselves, we just wanted to make a modern
pop/rock state of the art record, we were happy to do that at
that time."
In retrospect, do you feel it was too
close to it's predecessor, 'Sparkle In The Rain'?
"It had to be in some ways, we
were trying to consolidate on something. You see things working
well, especially when you're playing live, and the subconscious
tells you to carry on, and you tend to sit back. I'd like to think
of what we've done before as a learning process, just put it down
as an apprenticeship."
It's a brave move when you consider
you may well have had success sewn up for the next few years at
least.
"I think smart's a better word,
because not to do it would have been stupid, you just don't get
away with it. And that's terrible. I'll tell you where this is
a brave move - if it's brave at all - is in commerical terms.
Our last album was technically our first successful one in America
and that was three and a half years ago. I don't know what the
radio stations there are gonna think about it when they hear it,
if they hear it."
"They've already got INXS if they
want it, but I think the order of the day is something more. Life
affects you and your art should reflect that. Unless you're one
of these machine-like Heavy metal bands, things are gonna fuck
you up, things are gonna happen in your life. In every other art
form except rock 'n' roll, it's normally when people get old that
they usually hit it, because of experience.
"You can write with a youthful
burn which is always attractive, but I think the real pearls of
wisdom come from people with experience, they've had highs and
lows, they've had to take pain as well."
Sparkle Through The Pain
Jim Kerr's pain has been public in
recent months, with the news of his break-up with Chrissie Hynde.
This is not the place for details, suffice to say that while Jim
has been rediscovering his tranquil homeland, Chrissie still yearns
for the London life. How has Jim taken it, has the break-up helped
or hindered him on the album?
"It's amazing because it hasn't
affected me in as much a way as people might think. The thing
that was getting to me was that I hate the idea of failing, which
is a queer thing because you're always gonna have to fail to learn.
"And I don't like the idea of
contributing to the breakdown of a family unit, it comes back
to this age of chaos thing, that is one of my big panics. It sounds
like I'm being really glib about it, but we'd have to be here
all night to understand it and it really wouldn't be right to
do that.
"Values have changed. If you give
an oath, which I have only done once in my life, you really want
to see that through, but there's so much involved beyond those
traditional values. I'm a Scotsman - I don't mean that in a nationalistic
sense - but I live here, and when I'm in London I can't write
a song. I don't know why, I just can't, I can't get the perspective.
"But I am very lucky to have such
a great family and Chrissie Hynde will always be part of that
family and I think now I'm much stronger because that notion of
failure has gone. We got out really good, a mess was avoided,
although the press tried to do a bit up here. I think there was
only one picture of us together which someone fuckin' sold.
"The people around us have known
for a year, but we never went overboard, even when we were together.
We were very un-Rod and Britt about things.
"Chrissie is the greatest and
she loves being in London and she should have somebody there,
somebody that isn't gonna be away all the time. But I was working
on the record and thinking about loads of other things. Okay,
the family was breaking up but any time I was about to go into
a self pity, real pressure, like not having money to heat your
home, not being able to pay the bills, that's pressure."
Marriage break-ups, the Poll Tax, nuclear
submarines, unseen walls, apartheid and the need to reinvent his
band would point towards a fairly depressing set of songs from
Simple Minds in this age of chaos.
"Nah, I think it's stunningly
beautiful, I think there's an underlying faith, a euphoria. I
think it's great to be able to recognise that the world is being
fucked up, rather than just turn your back on it.
"This record is glorious as opposed
to being depressing. It wasn't so much a concept but it became
apparent that the songs were tying in somewhere. I think there's
an overall feeling of hope, if there wasn't we really wouldn't
put it out. Some people say that the dreamer has the easy way,
it's just dreams. But there's the other thing of daring to dream,
you've seem something else and you've got no choice but to do
something, it's there pushing you on."
You may say Jim's a dreamer, let's
hope he's not the only one.
Spark - Infested Waters
Following the remarkable success
of their album 'Street Fighting Years', Jim Kerr and his band
have embarked on a year-long world tour. Next week they arrive
in Britain for a string of sell-out dates. Ian Gittins travelled
to Zurich to witness the dazzle and the drizzle of their epic
three-hour show and talks to Kerr about translating his grand
vision onto the stage and the art of stadium communication.
Ian Gittins - 'Melody Maker' - 22nd
July 1989 (UK)
"There are some nights where there's
a feeling in the air, and I really do think that the walls are
gonna come down," says Jim Kerr. "I don't know where that comes
from. I've been going to a lot of shows to see the greatest and
even then there hasn't been that spark, where you just hit it,
and it fucking rises above. The whole thing is more than it's
part. The parts are average, when you look. It's the sparks inbetween
that make this work!!"
So, Simple Minds live in the city of...
not much, really. Zurich is nothing. Spick, span, tidy and sexless.
It's hard to get to know, harder to love. The Swiss swish by with
their neat knack of seeming distant. Even the river doesn't want
to know. You'd wait a good while here for the spontaneous passion
Jim Kerr claims to revere.
Not that this matters. Simple Minds
have eased into town to do a job. They're on one more leg of a
world tour which is keeping them busy all thw ay through to
next May. And however sterile the town may be, a devoted crowd
will appear as if by magic tonight. Jim Kerr knows this. It always
happens. "Street Fighting Years", their new LP, is selling out
all over the world and folks want to come along to see 'em act
it out. It's only human nature.
Can it work? Well, that's a different
matter. Critical voices on "Street Fighting Years" were spilt.
Most saw it as a step in the right direction, after the pedestrian
plods of "Sparkle In The Rain" and "Once Upon A Time". Most saw
glints of life, a few dreams, Jim Kerr re-locating himself. Simple
Minds, who used to sound as if they had invented laws of motion,
seem to be telling themselves once more that there is more to
live shows than yelling, bawling and beating their chests. They
are trying to unlearn all the bad stadium habits they'd picked
up. Perhaps they are even trying to be intimate again.
And intimacy won't be easy in Zurich.
the Hallenstadion, the night's venue, is a huge sports complex,
capable of holding 10,000 people. It'll need every last place.
This is Simple Minds' second night here, and the city ain't sated
yet. A mix of wired young kids and bearded, serious types throng
the vast hall, waiting for the first spark. And in a wooden gallery
aptly called the Jury Box, 20 feet from the ground and maybe 100
yards from the stage, I'm to gaze and see if Simple Minds are
guilty of the hot air, bluster and pomposity they've been accused
of, or if a warming glow still shines at their core. In short,
to see if Jim Kerr is still cutting it.
A few hours previously, Jim Kerr settles
himself back into a big comfy hotel chair and eyes me up with
a grin and a sigh. Out of the window stretch green gardens. Hills
are behind him. Last night was a truimph, tonight will be the
same. All's well with his world. He's just seen off the girl from
the Daily Mail, digging for dirt about him and Chrissie Hynde,
and he'll see me off as well. No bother. You don't stumble across
many souls as ordered and in charge as Jim Kerr.
And he's keen to talk about Simple
Minds with me. I wasn't sure he would. he's not so keen on Melody
Maker, not since his last interview, with John Wilde, that tilted
the scales against him more than he thought fair. He took note
of that. Yet he'll still tske time for me, because it's a new
day, a new chance. Jim Kerr doesn't bear grudges. And he gives
a lot of thought to answers. Few words are wasted.
So I ask him if when he's up onstage,
playing to thousands, does he ever feel like he's speaking for
all of them? An everyman
"No, never. I feel like I'm speaking
for myself. On a night where there's a postive feeling, I happen
to think there are a lot of people in the hall that coincide with
my feelings, or whatever, but I never feel I'm speaking for them.
And I never feel, I have to stress, I have any answers. With a
few people, you get all the lights, and a really powerful sound
and so on, and illusions set in. It can seem like I'm trying to
be some kind of shaman. In fact, I just cannae dance!"
Jim Kerr likes a joke more than
you'd guess. Does he ever feel lonely up there?
"Not now. At one point, maybe. The
bonus for me on this tour, the greatest success, is I've lost
my nerves. They always worked to our detriment. I used to think
they give it an edge and when the nerves go, the edge will go.
But the nerves have gone and I'm really enjoying it. Really, really
enjoying it. It's a long show, but we've worked hard. The balances
are good. The dynamics. I think a few years ago, we were getting
into big halls for the first time, we were trying a bit too hard.
Now, we're really proud of this."
So what makes a great Simple Minds
gig?
"I'd like to think it shares things
with other good rock bands." The Glasgow burr pauses, "All the
elements on display. Key elements being, it goes without saying,
energy, atmosphere, some kind of sensuality. Even sometimes some
humour, on this tour. Even, dare I say, a bit of sexuality!"
What? Erotic dancers?
"No, ha ha! Just passion! Electricity!
When Simple Minds enter to thrill 10,000
in the Hallenstadion, they enter. Dry ice billows. Smoke bombs.
We've had a 10 minute pseudo-orchestral swirl, and now we get
a squall of bagpipes. Overkill isn't in it. But the Swiss are
on a roll already. "Willy Korn" runs a giant logo to the side
of the stage. I can't see at all, so head for the back, right
up in the gods. For the Minds, you need to be there.
So heads stretch as far as the eye
can see, feet stamp and sway and Jim Kerr heads straight into
"Street Fighting Years". Straight for the jugular. He's on a ramp,
behind the drummer and finds a great first moment. As he pauses
to whisper, "Here comes a hurricane", lasers riddle the hall and
the drums crash to a climax as he descends to the masses, discarding
his coat. Lights strafe every inch. That's good.
The Zippo flames spark up, a Scottish
flag waves in the crowd, yet there are signs of stadium lumpiness
already. Kerr is bellowing like an ox, "And I loo-oove you!",
as the music loops. It ends and we get, "Let me see your hands!"
Zurich obliges, He runs to the speakers, falls to his knees. "Are
you all right?" It must make you go funny up there, but I'm gobsmacked
how many stadium tricks he crams in in the first 10 minutes.
So they go into "Wall Of Love", an
epic rant from the LP. The word "love" lights up huge behind them.
I'm worried. Is it all going to be this obvious? Maybe not. I've
been told they're playing for three hours!
"This song's for the black and
white people of South Africa!" bawls Kerr as guitars blast.
Does he see the irony? I'm not sure.
It's a crucial point. I'm uneasy already. Where Simple Minds used
to keep things simple, but with an intricate, swelling, layered
ease, now they're explaining for idiots, with huge blackboards
and cue cards. Subtlety is absent. Slogans bounce off the walls,
deafening. I wish we could see the sky. That would help. These
songs need all the room they can get.
"THIS...IS...YOUR...LAND!"
yells Jim. A sea of lighters spark up. It's all about, y'know,
history, tradition, belonging, that sort of bag. There's a violin
solo and Kerr's up there, among it all, trying to ride the waves
of music, milk it, walk on it, touch every last person in the
hall with his words and faith.
Make no mistake, Jim loves it. Fault
Simple Minds on many grounds, sure, but don't accuse Jim Kerr
of lack of sincerity. He means every last word of this. He wants
this music to touch everyone.
Half-an-hour gone. Jim Kerr's trying
very hard.
Do you find Simple Minds hard to
dicuss, Jim? Is it intangible?
"Absolutely, that's the thing.
Music comes instinctively, and then you're meant to talk about
it logically. No wonder I come out sounding woolly!"
So you can kill the inspiration,
by over-analysis?
"Yeah! I mean, who knows why you
move from one chord to another? Why your insides rise? How can
you explain it? And how can you explain it to somebody who's not
getting it? But on a good night, that's what it is. There's a
spiral going on. It's going up. It usually feels dead positive
now. It's very rare you see a crowd feeling positive these days!
And if you get 12,000 people och, it's something! I went to a
lot of shows last year to experience the thing out front. Prince,
Jackson, all that stuff."
So, do you belong here now? Are
these wide-open spaces your natural environment? Kerr's voice
drops three octaves. I get an intense nod.
"Yeah, I think so. When you're
up there, and open to the air and elements and everything. It
just felt right, and there was a crowd there, and I was watching
them come in, and there was a sense of occasion I just enjoyed
being part of it. It was never fashionable to play these places.
It sill isn't. You pay the price in critical terms. But we always
wanted to try them out for ourselves, not listen to what anyone
else said about 'em. try it and decide what's real and not real.
"We played in Brazil last year,
a huge open-air thing, and the week before did some dates in Glasgow,
in Barrowlands. And the music just couldnae breathe. It wasn't
right. Which doesnae mean we'll never go back to the small places.
I think we will. Everything goes in circles. But it won't depress
us."
Do you write for those big spaces?
"Yeah, but it's funny, y'know.
Look at some things tonight, from the new album. There are some
really quiet moments that I thought wouldn't work. And ironically,
they're more powerful!"
Good! It's not just volume?
"No, it's stuff like.... breath.
And drama. When we were writing songs I thought we were writing
these little songs, with the most simple sentiments. And then
people started talking about them being anthems! And I thought,
no, they're little songs! And now it's the songs that I never
thought would work that are the showstealers."
Breath and drama. These are the words
Simple Minds should deal in. But onstage ain't looking so good.
They're firing into "Soul Cring Out", the anti-poll
tax epic, and Jim is shouting, hard, loud, bullying. Guitars which
should be liquid are harsh and abrasive.
"Some sweet day!" he yells,
looking to some bright, vague future. As a realist, Jim Kerr is
a mug. As a dreamer, he aims high.
"Waterfront" is better. Here's
how the Minds should be. There's a great, pulsing flow of bass
as Kerr peels off his jacket. And some good theatre. He leaps
from a ramp, legs tucked under him, as a spot picks him out in
the darkness. Not for nothing do they use Prince's lighting man.
Then "Ghostdancing" is introduced, a harsh, lurching
mess of sibilant hiss and blaring guitar. My spirits sink. Zurich
dissolves into cheers. A version of Van The Man's "Gloria",
to mark Jim Morrison's death 19 years ago to the day, is coarse,
lewd and clumsy.
So, time for pause. How do I link the
smart, fired romantic who talked to me today of symmetry, delicacy,
music as a pulse, with this stadium monster up there? How can
the gap be so huge? Jim Kerr thinks his band is conveying warmth,
power, love, vision to these screaming hordes. i don't doubt his
faith. But this is a blaring racket. A messy sprawl. In the bid
to include all, touch everyone with this nobly ambitious music,
Simple Minds are falling over themselves. Spelling it out so large,
it's an insult. His dream of a music of vast beauty is becoming
a nightmare.
Yet must it? "Book Of Brilliant
Things" rings out, and is, for a second, all that Simple
Minds should be - weighty, and glorious. But tonight, sadly, it's
merely weighty. Likewise, "Don't You Forget About Me",
is turned here from a tiny, frozen moment into a mad monstrosity.
I sink into reverie and watch a balloon bob on a sea of fists
like a cork on the waves. Jim Kerr is reaching the back, sure.
But he's using a megaphone to do it.
We have to admire the Minds' ambition,
but the stadium's winning. An ugly drum solo wins huge cheers.
Why? Are these people stupid? is this all they want? Then Jim
leaves the stage for an accordian/acoustic instrumental, picked
up by a whistling, thundering, cheering crowd. here's terrace
culture. The song's dull, but a mass of Zippos light up again,
piercing the dark. It looks very moving. When they go out, it's
like watching a city die.
Are you still in charge of all this,
Jim?
"We are now. Having a break was
crucial. I don't know how we arrived at it, but I think we've
got a perspective. We managed to think, this is the core, this
is the heart, this is what makes it tick, what makes it sell.
This is what gets it across. This is real. This isnae real. This
is mundane, but useful. Before, I was wide-eyed about the whole
thing. Now I can be mercenary."
How has it changed you?
"Now I'm a lot less patient. I
want to go in and shake things, rattle them or turn them around.
I'm a lot less afraid of falling on my arse now than I was. I
think I'm a lot less precious now. i mean, so much has changed
since we first started, personally and artistically. So much has
changed in 10 years. I feel a lot more relaxed, and clear, about
things. But I probably still have the same fears and joys."
I hit Jim with my Simple Minds theory:
at their very best, their songs are a spark of feeling blown up
to fill an arena. A pulse, amplified. That they need that elusive
spark to work. i ask him, does he ever write a song without a
spark, and hope it comes along later? trust to luck?
"That's a good question,"
he says, and ponders for a while. "I think the whole thing
with us, cos there isnae a songwriter who sits down and sees the
whole thing, is that we're a bit of jigsaw. To get one of us writing,
we need the feeling there to begin with. Charlie may play 10 fine
things, and one of 'em just.... communicates. Usually the feeling
or the spark grabs me first and makes me think of a line, or something
already said. It arrives... yeah... the glow."
Are you ever touched by wonder at
it? That millions hear your whims, your fancies?
"Aye! But there is an irony in
bands. Look at the irony of Bruce Springsteen. The bar band from
New Jersey, then he goes on to become the new Elvis. It's strange.
Some people like our music cos it's good to dry your hair to.
Other people, it'll actually change their next few months of thought.
Or it becomes their code. You know how you put on a record, and
somehow the world feels different, you feel less alone. You know
somebody feels the same way. Somebody's articulated something."
Yet you're more tangible now than
you were. You sing of Ireland and Africa and ecology. You used
to sing about the inside of your head.
"Well certain songs have to be
that way. But 'Street Fighting Years', that little track, that's
inside my head. It's sheer, and it's extreme. And I give up trying
to say why it should be that way, or whatever. But I hear the
words, and I hear the music."
And high up over Zurich, Jim Kerr gives
me a serene smile.
I'm thinking in the Hallenstadion,
take off all the stadium mockery, the big boots, the clumsy clutter,
and Simple Minds could be a hell of a band. One who embrace hope
and symmerty. Who have roots in beauty and destiny. Who are intense
idealists. Who try to make sense of these times, cos they care.
Weak humanism aside, Jim Kerr is still driven by a sharp, urgent,
biting sense of wonder. He's still keen to learn.
But he's talking. "This is about
a town called Glasgow. It's rainy, cold, grey, industrial, got
a great football team, and we love it!" The Minds swing into
"Oh Jungleland." It's liked being kicked in the bollocks
by a camel. It sounds like his descripton of Glasgow. It doesn't
soar. Once again, delicacy is trashed. So are spatial tension
and dynamics. Where Simple Minds should be a divine throb, it's
more a frantic din.
"Let's go!" he cries, but
he's running on the spot. Just puffing and panting. I came to
praise Simple Minds, not to bury them! But I'm bulldozed into
a grumpy blankness. A dull stupor.
Is he trying to hard again? Well, he
seems pretty relaxed up there. Jim Kerr, looking down on 10,000
grins, really think it's working. He thinks this huge music can
be seen radiating from his own golden vision, his sense of faith.
But up there, at the back, all I can see are dire heroics. it's
not good. He punches the air, I want to punch him.
"Critics want us to do 'New Gold
Dream II', and we don't want to, so that's that," he told
me earlier. But no, Jim, we don't want that, Just some care, some
space, some silence. A sense that music can be sacred.
And they can still do it. "Big
Sleep" is suddenly here, a welcome break from histrionics.
It sounds like a vast dream. In those days even the titles fitted.
This could be Jim Kerr, in a dark room, thinking to himself, and
suddenly I'm jerked back to life. Here's what they do well. Here's
what counts. Zurich's taken aback, at this swap of a feather for
a sledgehammer. Yet it's working. It pushes to a climax. It's
visionary, able, poised, precious...
And over, A thump and crash of drums,
and it's "Kick It In", a stubbed toe-ender from "Street
Years". Here's where they reach their nadir, here's where
they're Big Country. And Kerr, the hall in his hands, stabs and
stumbles until one line, where he pauses for a full minute, savouring
the dramatic lull before bursting back in to howl, "Don't
let the demons in!" Zurich goes mental. I frown.
At best, Simple Minds flow like quicksilver.
At worst they hiccough and fart. There's a lot of wind being passed
tonight.
Are you still an innocent person,
Jim, or has this made you cynical?
"I'm innocent about certain things.
I don't think I'm innocent about the promotion of records."
Do you trust people easily? Strangers?
"Instinctively I do, yeah. Aye."
And you're a romantic. Your talk
is always of nature. All your metaphors and hyperboles come from
there.
"Well, they're the things that
stop me in my tracks," he says grinning.
"Again, it's the force of logic,
y'know. You can talk to the guy who's been to university, then
talk to the other guy... Like, in Scotland, there's a gardener
where we work, and we're working with all this hi-tech gear, Japanese,
and it's worth a fortune, and he just comes up, with his face
like it's made of wood, and he'll pick up this fucking seed and
go, 'This is the most powerful computer in the whole world'. And
I'm much more into somebody like him. It's just the way I am.
I'm usually grappling for something to say anyway. These images
- people think when I'm doing this that they're vague. I think
it's an international language."
Do you use them because the vague
is more evocative than the specific?
"Absolutely! And it's international,
cos they're symbols. The oldest symbols since the start of time.
It's instinctive to me, as well. And a lot of Celtic writers,
it's what they use. The backdrop they set their vision on."
And it used to suit the Minds because,
at their most basic, they were elemental like a throb of nature.
Jim lights up.
"Great! That's great! Or a heartbeat,
or something. That's a great way of putting it. I've always just
called our music a glorious noise. A shiny racket."
It's not polite, but I start to
giggle. That doesn't sound very complimentary, does it? A shiny
racket?
"Well, it is. It's a big racket. A
glorious noise, whatever. i like beauty, y'know. i also like intensity.
That's what I love. And on a good night, I think we can achieve
it."
So I'm searching for beauty and intensity
back in the Hallenstadion and finding mostly a shiny racket. But
Simple Minds, let it be said, come alive a few times tonight,
and, one of them is "Let It All Come Down". A mere murmur on the
LP, it sounds like it's trying to tap the very process of motion.
It's elusive, golden, a liquid hum. And I realise our view of
Simple Minds is all wrong. They didn't go from "New Gold Dream"
and divinity straight to "Sparkle In The Rain" and dross. No band
loses it that quickly. rather, they reached a superb peak, then
showed signs of decline which "Street Fighting Years" has begun
to arrest. Yet looking round me, as Kerr stands, hands high, before
a wall of golden noise, there's still a lot to do.
"Belfast Child" comes next. "this is
a song for peace in Northern Ireland," Jim declares, and Zurich
roars approval. But, really, what did they expect him to say?
"Here's one for the petrol bombs?" It's the overtness, the lack
of guile, that's niggled me all night.
Still, his voice is cutting, chiselling
tool, there's some kind of melancholy. In here, it makes more
sense than it did crammed into a radio. The economy of scale works.
Until Jim gets excited again, starts to bluster, and the whole
seemly, seamless symmetry rips apart. Til the headaches start.
The dynamics sink.
But I'm not bored shitless by Simple
Minds tonight. That'd be a lie. I'm just puzzled - longing to
be touched by the vast circus, keen to see past the stadium antics,
hoping to find some kind of vision. I stare hard, give him all
the help I can, even hold my breath a few times, but it's not
working. I can't find it. And as the band flounce off, bidding
Zurich goodnight, I'm left adrift.
It isnae there, Jim.
Where does your ambition come from?
Have you always wanted to do it all?
"Aye. Well, that's what I've always
thought. What's the point in being in a band and your fucking
ambition is to get a John Peel session! But for some people, that's
the be-all and end-all. Somebody said to me last night, about
Echo And The Bunneymen, they could hsve done what we did, and
he was saying it was good they didn't want to. But they didnae
have the heart for it. It was there and they had to look it in
the eye, and they didnae have the heart! Our band's not like that.
Why not take it the whole road, even if you get it wrong on the
way? What's the problem with that? Maybe you'll find the path
again. If you're gonna be around for 10 years, you'll do some
things of merit and some things not!"
What rules you, nowadays? Your heart
or your head?
"The things that really get me going
are instinctive. That's probably the heart. And then the head
comes in after. The head's the fucking crap side, actually. It
fucks the good things up. It starts asking questions, and you
start listening to people and you're made vulnerable that way,
y'know. You start analysing it. Start thinking 'Oh, I've gotta
be good tonight cos there's 12,000 people'. As opposed to just
doing it. Or our head starts thinking, 'We're selling out Wembley
Stadium.' Don't think about it. Just do it!"
Are you searching for some truth?
Jim, who has a slight cold, clears his throat. I've bowled him
a full toss. He wants to enjoy it.
"I think so. Somebody said last week
the idea of Lou Reed and Simple Minds together was wrong and nihilist,
the dark side, the gutter poet, whereas we're all bright and shiny-goldy!
And maybe what we have in common is both our albums, from different
parts of the world, are both trying to look for some truth. trying
to make sense in these times."
Is it within reach?
"I want to say yes, but at the same
time... Ideally, some people say you shouldnae look too far. But
I was brought up with a horizon. I always knew there ws something
there.
Zurich roars. And screams. The Hallenstadion
is alive, and there's no way the Minds can fail to come back.
But how they come back! Oh dear! When they return, Simple Minds
don't so much give the cynics an open goal, as boot the ball into
their own net themselves and smoother each other in kisses. It's
social conscience time, and a grubby, clumsy plod through The
Issues. "Sun City" is first, Kerr's histrionic declaration joined
by the thoarts of 10,000 Swiss who are highly unlikely to ever
get asked to play there.
So they howl for South Africa. Is it
worth the botha? No one actually disagrees with the sentiments,
it's just so bleedin' obvious! Likewise, "Biko", Gabriel's mournful
anthem, takes a full 15 minutes to unfold, all static drums and
pious chants. I think by now I'd prefer a song about Bilko. Well,
that's not true. The Minds do keep reaching high, being mighty.
It just means when it goes wrong, like this, they come a mighty
cropper.
10,000 voices rise into the night -
but isn't it mere terrace solidarity? Souldn't the name as easily
be Ian Rush?
So it's almost over. A bleak "east
At easter" follows, Kerr crooning some guff, and then a final
"Alive And Kicking" - one last burst of vigour, one final flourish
and the night is done. The balancing act over. Simple Minds have
squashed Zurich, who approve heartily with force and volume and
power. They painted with big, fat, broad strokes, launched an
ambitious rock, whcih got partway there, and then collapsed. Jim
Kerr still has a genius, and a vision in his head, but he's so
dazzled by big lights that he can't spot the flaws. Can't see
the errors. Even those of us who have loved Simple Minds have
to shake our heads.
They huffed and puffed and sweated.
But they didn't get there. The Minds in Zurich couldn't sustain
and translate their vision. Jim Kerr tried to juggle space, motion,
time and beauty. He dropped them all with a massive clatter. The
rest of the world is still waiting to see the circus and Simple
Minds have a lot of fine tuning to do.
Last time Jim Kerr talked to the Maker,
he said after each show he thinks, "Great! Another one over!"
Tonight, for all the wrong reasons, I agree.
Are there still great songs in Jim
Kerr waiting to be written?
"Och, that's a great one! I think we're
only starting and that isnae modesty. A few crackers came up on
this album. There are things from the past we're recognising again
and I think we're winning the battle of being a big band. Being
outside it. Having our ears open, our eyes open. We don't feel
successful at all. It's a thrill. In the eyes of the industry
we have the tokens of success. But real success is the people
who've been doing it 15 years more than this.
"We are wet behind the ears. We've
only started to play."
Street Fighting Years
80sexchange.com
Last album of the eighties from Scottish
band Simple Minds. The album is produced by Trevor Horn, which
always means a grand sound with lots of background instruments.
This is also the case on this album, which makes the Simple Minds
sound far less simple (no pun intended) than earlier albums. Especially
Let It All Come Down, a wonderful Simple Minds ballad, has benefited
from using Trevor Horn as a producer. Apart from Belfast Child
and Mandela Day, songs like This Is Your Land (featuring Lou Reed
on background vocals) and the mentioned Let It All Come Down are
the highlights of this great album.
Jim KerrŐs voice is smooth sounding
throughout the whole album and the guitar of Charlie Burchill
on a song like Kick It In is classic Simple Minds. They couldnŐt
have made a better album to end the eighties.
Street Fighting Years
Tom Demalon - All Music Guide (US)
Their first proper new release since
the commercial breakthrough of Once Upon a Time (a live album
intervened) and Simple Minds makes a decidedly, noncommercial
follow-up.
Street Fighting Years is a moody, dark
affair. The music is yearning and most of the songs are politically
charged lyrically. It was a |